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the lame-duck session. president obama spoke to harry reid over the phone about the fiscal cliff over the weekend. the white house is making it clear today that the president won't sign a bill that extends tax cuts for those earning $250,000 a year in social security. it will not be part of the fiscal cliff. so we are going to talk about the compromise. we have a congress and to talk about this with us. >> and you for having me cheryl: or a little bill? >> we were waiting and hoping to compromise with its administration. but they they would just never come to the table. >> these democrats want to continue spending on social programs, republicans don't want tax cuts to be touched. you think we can have coromise from both sides on each of these issues? the rhetoric that we are hearing on a television screen is pretty negative. >> he did say that we want and the republicans will reach out to less. cheryl: after the last election, the november election, it was a referendum on many republicans. some of them walked away and said, okay, we did not get the senate back, we are moving forward.
of raising taxes in the face of the fiscal cliff. >>> courageous until the end. a former mayor in mexico who fearlessly stood up to the drug cartels found murdered. >>> and face-to-face behind closed doors today, u.n. ambassador susan rice takes on one of her sharpest critics, senator john mccain, over her actions after the benghazi attack. good morning and welcome to "early start," i'm deborah feyerick in for john berman. >> really nice to have you. >> i'm so glad to be here. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. first, congress back to work, and back to bickering. in just under 35 days, america hits the fiscal cliff. that triggers severe spending cuts and tax hikes. several top republicans are now defying party politics and signaling a willingness to consider increasing tax revenues to get a budget deal done. but when the lame duck senate got back in session yesterday it sure sounded like the same old broken record. >> the senate has spoken. president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2%
people here in washington are calling the fiscal cliff. today, we have new proof that people across the country not only are aware of what's going on, they're very, very worried. our new poll shows 68% say the country will face either a crisis or major problems if the cuts in taxes aren't avoided. and a whopping 77% say their personal financial situation will be affected by a failure to solve the fiscal cliff problem. despite this nationwide sense of urgency, there's only a little talk of compromise right now as lawmakers return to washington. our congressional correspondent, kate bolduan, has been working her sources on capitol hill and what's going on. stakes are enormous right now. what's going on? >> they were away for a week. staff was supposed to be working. but lawmakers are arriving back in town with no real whisper of an imminent breakthrough at the moment to avoid this looming series of tax increases and spending cuts that could very well damage the economy. but the air of compromise among some notable republicans is definitely grabbing attention. the republicans' comments
of a little more of a slope. i do think that there is -- i think that the worst part of the fiscal cliff are going to be avoided, and beyond that i think that both sides if they don't come together then we have a lot more revenue, and then we could do something like tax reform on top of that higher revenue, which would still bring in some revenue, yet at the same time satisfy a lot of republican demands for possibly lower rates. again, we can cross that bridge when we get to it. right now i think we won't -- if there is going to be a deal in this lame duck session, we are not going to know until the very end. host: thank you, gentlemen. appreciate your helping us out with this conversation about this so-called fiscal cliff. and the conversation continues in washington and outside as both parties take their arguments to the public. cnn reporting that the white house wants americans to make their point on twitter. we will be following all of this with our cameras, as well as on our website, c-span.org/fiscalcliff if you want to follow along. that does it today for -- it for today's "washin
and into year end. >> well, you have the fiscal cliff. you have the political class. they have to work out some of these budget issues, but sort of beyond the near term, maria, i think they're two underpinnings that are supporting the market. they were in place preelection. hopefully you sort of get through some of these political negotiations. you get back to some of the better underlying fundamental news and some of this volatility starts to dissipate and we start to turn higher. >> rick, you agree with that in terms of the catalyst for this market? you think we get a deal done by year end? >> i don't. i don't. i don't agree with much of what's out there. i think we can get the framework for a grand bargain before the end of the year, but i think that's 50/50. and many analysts, economists, and politicos don't believe there's grand bargains in the cards at all. i do. i think there's so many issues with congress out that i think are going to come to the table to make both sides have a pretty good handle over the other. i think debt ceiling is a big deal. i think that mr. boehner has talked abo
this morning. congress is back in session, and just in time, we are now 35 days away from the fiscal cliff. >> a big day in the middle east. today both israel and gaza meet to further the cease-fire between the two embattled nations. we're going to have a live report coming up for you. >> gray thursday, black friday, and now cyber monday. but just how good are the deals today, compared to what was put out this past holiday weekend? we're going to break it all down for you. >> did you do any shopping? >> absolutely not. there's too much football. >> don't you love it? >> good morning. welcome to "early start," i'm john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. 5:00 a.m. in the east. so let's get started. they are back. our lame duck congress returning to capitol hill today. the senate in session this afternoon. the house back tomorrow. and with 35 days left, as john just reminded us, before we plunge down the fiscal cliff, two prominent republican senators, lindsey graham and saxby chambliss are signaling they are willing to give a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because
the fiscal cliff is or what it means for their paycheck. >> they aren't worried. we'll see how numbers pan out. should be a big shopping weekend for the retailers. cyber-monday is around the corner. this is a big three days. it's funny. cyber-monday first came about when people didn't have high-speed internet. they would have to go to work and shop because it wasn't common. now it's common to have high-speed internet access at home and still you have cyber-monday. >> just as a point of note here, street signs are not allowed to say cyber-monday. i don't believe it. it's five bucks in the beer jar. you already owe 15 bucks. >> it's not "street signs." >> we play by a different set of rules here at post 9. >> we play by melissa's rules here at post 9. >> yours too, david. >> mine too. absolutely. we will be watching any number of retailers in terms of stocks. we'll see how some of the laggers do today. jcpenney. we'll be talking to the chief merchandise officer at sears later in the program. interesting to see given how poor the report was there. >> don't we have the former ceo of jcpenney o
in congress over the fiscal cliff. >> they're going to be pulling back a little because they don't know what to expect for 2013, and they want to remain cautious as we move forward into the next year. >> that was kristen dahlgren reporting. speaking of, congress returns from the holiday this week, still facing that so-called fiscal cliff. if a deal can't be reached by january 1st, americans would face half a trillion dollars more in taxes next year, coupled with $100 billion in cuts to domestic and defense spending. now, since the reagan era, most republicans have pledged not to raise taxes. as mike viqueira reports, there are signs of flexibility on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: it's a pledge almost all republicans have signed. to oppose tax increases of any kind. that once solid wall was showing crass. >> the pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> reporter: but republicans insist in return for defying party doctrine, democrats must agree that changes in social security and medicare. >> i
is that we get a fix for the fiscal cliff maybe early january, maybe we go over the cliff for a couple days. and i think the political pressure then to fix it would be intense because of the amt shock. normally 4.5 million pay pay alternative minimum taxes. if we didn't fix this on the 2012 income, what's due in 2013 will be additional taxes of several thousand dollars by an extra 28 million households. 33 million instead of 4.5 million on 2012 taxes. if you're going to file your tax return in january and you expect a refind, if you're in the 75,000 to 300,000 income bracket, forget about it if they don't fix that amt. so i think senators will get calls from a good portion of 28 billion households saying what are you doing raising my taxes. i never withheld. are you going to penalize me because you didn't fix what you fix every year? i think that amt shock is going to drive -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will drive a very, very fast fix. but then we'll just have a small bargain later this year. there's not going to be a grand war bargain. >> that could be the worst case scenario is j
the fiscal cliff? >> everybody agrees. >> going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will hurt job creation in our country. >>er -- every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> shepard: so how to avoid that. >> the president and congress will either fail together or we will succeed together. >> there has to be a deal. there has to be an agreement. >> and if they can't come up with a compromise, we are all going to pay the price. plus, they are some of the biggest names in baseball. bonds, clemens, sosa. all three tainted by accusations they used performance enhancing drugs. but should that keep them from cooper's town? tonight, the great debate over baseball's hall of fame ballot but first from fox this wednesday night, the president hopes who have the framework of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make
busy over the weekend. talking about the fiscal cliff. everyone comes back to work . wonder if they will get to work and cut the deals. republicans made it clear they are willing to budge when it comes to the 20 year pledge not to raise taxes that glover norquist had everyone sign before they took office. >> steve: grover norquist has hundreds of republicans to do that. clearly with the fiscal cliff comment and automatic spending cuts and taxes go up on everybody. something has to be done. the feeling is that it will happen two now. republicans have beenadament and said we can't raise taxes on anybody. and glover norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but h
and they are ready to tackle the fiscal cliff crisis. lawmakers are ready tro compromise. >> lawmakers are ready to give in on tax changes in order to get some sort of a deal done. kelly wright joins us with more on what it means for the negotiation. we could be looking at possible tax hikes, isn't that right? >>> oo the government is on automatic pilot. that is five weeks away. for congress there is much work to be done and more compromise to be made in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. it will require give and take negotiations particularly on raising taxes but republican law americas who pledged to not vote for anything with a tax increase now appear ready to relinquish that pledge in order to avoid the looming fiscal crisis. >> when you are $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid the grief and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> so everything is on the table and campaign raising taxes on the wealthy is relying on treasury secretary tim geithner. his team will works on issues like medicare even social security. they hoping to avoid a repea
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in washington to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. but are they any closer to an agreement? >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice faces three of her main republican critics today, trying to explain her comments about the attack in benghazi. will she get their support if she's nominated as secretary of state? >> then, she's queen of the racetrack. now she's taken on sonic. danica patrick is here, live, with a preview of her new racing video game. >> we have lots coming up in the next two hours. pennsylvania senator pat toomey, maryland congressman chris van hollen. utah senator mike lee. and actress lucy heal from "pretty little liars." >> "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point today, more republicans seeming to break their no tax pledge but still bickering with democrats over the so-called fiscal cliff. and just under 35 days now america falls off that cliff. you've heard the menacing sound right there. this triggers drastic spending cuts and tax hikes. now there are some signs of compromise on capitol hill. several top republicans saying they're willing to a
at the meeting later this morning. senator mccain is also talking about know big topic the fiscal cliff. he says the current tax cuts could be extended for another six months. >> meeting this week is interesting. to be a sense of urgency as the market indicates. i think it depends on both sides and what they view is the lesson of the election. republicans maintain their majority in the house. the preside there's a possibili could kick the can down the road for 6 months or so by putting everything on hold. if you are really going to solve this problem if you are really going to address it you have to go after entitlements. everybody knows that's the third rail. that part has to be bipartisan the way it was with tip o'neil and ronald reagan. >> the fiscal cliff making investors nervous but not consumers. that's one of the stories you can bank on this morning. if you looked at cyber monday all of the deals you are not alone. early numbers show that sales were on track to break records. lauren simonetti joins us to look at these numbers. >> i went shopping yesterday, did you? >> i did, actually. >>
hill, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich. and warning that any more delay on a deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt-day retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with all of those details. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, lynn. good morning, everyone. as we track negotiations over the next few weeks, keep in mind that the key sticking point seems to be how do you get people who earn over $250,000 to contribute more? limit their deductions? close loopholes? or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set a
the fiscal cliff. the left and right are talking compromise. what does it mean? mike lee is out front. >>> and susan rice headed to capitol hill to meet with her most outspoken critics, including john mccain to answer questions about what happened in bengha benghazi. let's go outfront. >>> good evening. "outfront" tonight, egypt on edge. is a new dictatorship on the horizon? tonight, president morsi clarified, but really largely stood by his decision to grant himself sweeping powers. including freedom from judicial review for what he's calling presidential decisions. the announcement was made today after morsi met with members of egypt's judicial body, which has been very critical of his decision. and u.s. officials who just days ago were heaping praise on the new egyptian leader for his role in initiating a cease-fire between israel and hamas, well, now when he took all these powers away from judges that reign supreme, they're in a tough spot. >> we have some concerns about the decisions and declarations announced on november 22nd. democracy depends on strong institutions and the imp
holmes. you'll be back with me later this hour. we're going to talk about the fiscal cliff and how one leading republican may be ready actually to break ranks with his party to get a deal done. so we'll see them just a little bit later. >>> small businesses struggling to recover after superstorm sandy. we'll introduce you to one business owner who is trying her best to stay afloat. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year
on their plate. we're not talking about turkey. we're talking about the fiscal cliff. one of the urgent matters this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the wrong signal and may serve as taping point for our economy. so you're fear is that interest rates could surge. to be father, we've had this disastrous situation for years and interest rates have kept falling in spite of all worries that there would be a disaster. >> that's right. that's one of the things that distinguishes the fiscal cliff, which we're coming up against right now. from what i described yesterday says the fiscal avalanche. we can see when the fiscal cliff is about to hit. the avalanche occurs when people stop buying u.s. treasury instruments a
." ♪ ♪ >> eric: who in the world can save us from the fiscal cliff? >> first of all, give honor to god. ♪ ♪ lord and savior, barack obama. >> eric: not even that savior. 36 days going over the fiscal cliff. you should know what is at stake if partisans don't figure out a way soon. bush tax cut goes away and that alone would drive taxup fo. the patches will die as well. so add in the failure of the super committee and sequestered $1.2 trillion. spending cuts of $600 billion in defense. why are we here? you can't blame revenues. americans forked over $2.3 trillion in taxes and fees last year. the taxaholics are stone cold drunk on our spending. spending is out of control. mr. president, waiting for you to stand up and show leadership. bob, haven't heard a thing. crickets. >> eric: i think you heard things. there is movement going on here. >> bob: i'm glad they're breaking away from norquist and say there is a need for revenue. i think whether that comes in form of limiting deductions to $50,000 for people making over $250,000 or -- >> eric: i can say. we will get to all of that. we'll get to the d
coming to a fiscal cliff. this just hours after she spoke at a women's dinner here is what she had to say. >> we need to grow our mobile expertise really quickly. one of the things we concluded is that yes, we need to hire one by one, won't it be great if we got shrugs of people that were a team, already knew how to work together? so we've been looking at aqua hires, we've done our first one. >> in addition, myer says yahoo will possibly look to partnership was other companies. more bad news on the hewlett-packard front. deals with the falout with autonomy write down, moody's cut the ratings today, three level as above junction status. moody's says it's worried about hp ability to compete as well as numerous execution challenges. and apple is winning in the netherland. a dutch court banned sale of some gal yachlsy product that's allegedly infringe on the apple photo navigation patents. the ban only applying to older products that don't run on updated photo galleries but samsung still going to have to pay apple $129,000 for every day it violates the ruling. a check in on how stocks are tra
and talk about the fiscal cliff. the day after day. lawmakers hike their taxes. one of them is here to join me and explain that. more "money" coming up next. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. p@ [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. i have obligations. cute tobligations, but obligatio.ing. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large profession invesrs choosese ishares for their etf. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. melissa: the days are flying by. have you noticed that there is no solu
over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water vapor. what you need to see with this is look at this huge trough off the coast. all this moisture is po
return to capitol hill tomorrow to try to work on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff you've heard about a time or two. >> clayton: yeah, peter doocy live in washington this morning with the latest on where these negotiations stand and we can expect, i guess, tomorrow, peter, they get back to work after thanksgiving? >> reporter: that's right, clayton, so far just one meeting we know about the small, but bipartisan group of lawmakers trying to speteer the country away from the fiscal cliff and represent their parties. right after the bat after the first meeting speaker boehner told us he's ready to agree to new revenue in a deal, but the deal needs to be balanced. >> to show to your seriousness we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. and while we're going to continue that revenue on the table. it's going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma. >> democrats, obviously, control the white house and the senate, but they still need the republican-le
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about the fiscal cliff and it is a very important issue. to resolve that issue? today in the third grade it seems n.y. chicago and detroit, kids of being condemned to a life that is going to be very humbling and very frustrating because i know for effect those kids are not going to be able to read, they are not going to be able to compete and they will not be able to make up in some miraculous way in the twelfth grade. so having this twist of focusing on national security may lead the country to understand if we don't get off of the path we are on we are on a path to a very different kind of america and the person who deserves enormous credit for driving this task force is secretary rice. [applause] >> let's talk about what it would take to close the gap between where we are and where we ought to be. one way to think of it is basic skills. one thing we decided the council on foreign relations is a large issue of content. what got me to this point is when i talked at the kennedy school, non american students knew more about american civics and the basis of american foreign policy than ame
youk on. they have a little time before fiscal cliff. lack of progress. >> we are a little over four weeks away from the fiscal cliff and still no progress. there is a massive tax hike in spending cuts, it only intensifies on comments by harry read essentially confirming the budget talks still remain worlds apart. the dow down nearly 90 points. >> this will be a big topic in the future. college loan debt. that could be the next housing bubble. >> the federal lending making college education to any one is really only creating a pile of debt so large that since 2007 it has risen 56 percent while other forms of debt like auto debt mortgage debt that declined. u.s. student debt rose $950 billion according to the federal bank of new york. now 11 percent of those balances are at least 90-days late. that is higher than credit card late payments for the first time in history. >> if the student continue to default that is the u.s. taxpayers picking up the tabs. >> most of the student debt is in the grace period so the number is probably even higher. >> we will keep following that one. christm
-called fiscal cliff. state hoyce are joining law makers pushing for 18.4 percent tax hike. the tax last raised in 1993. hundreds of our nation's heros getting a warm welcome home in new jersey. vol tierce greeted the soldiers and served them a traditional turkey dinner with all of the trimmings. >> motorcycle is coming and all . people that greeted us was a wonderful experience. nbest thing i had seen in years. >> and this speed and truth event is held every year. >> that is your five on five. nthis morning, israel arrested the person behind wednesday's bomb blast on a bus in tel-aviv while the cease fire between israel and hamas is holding up. peter doocy has more in washington. >> good morning, patty. twen people - 27 people were injured when the bus exploded and an an arab-israeli is in custody for planting the bomb. pam pal militants with ties to hamas and other islamic jihadist in tel-aviv to plant the bomb and call would the handlers it was in place and they dialed a mobile phone that triggered the blast. the man admitted to carrying out the terrorist attack and now we'll wait and see if
fiscal cliff, those tax increases and spending cuts that would kick in next year. lawmakers returned to washington yesterday amid some talk of compromise, but the issue of how to raise revenue remains a critical and hard to overcome sticking point. susan mcginnis is live in washington with more. >> reporter: those changes kick in if no alternative deal is made. as of now, both sides are still talking about their willingness to compromise, but when it comes to that main issue, raising tax rates, both sides are digging in. democratic senator dick durbin will give what's being called a major speech laying out a case for a bipartisan fiscal deal. he's a member of the senate's gang of eight, four democrats and four republicans who have collaborated on ways to reduce the nation's debt for two and a half years. democratic senator mark warner is part of the gang and says democrats are willing to put entitlements like medicaid and medicare on the negotiating table. >> the math just doesn't work anymore. not because the programs are bad, but because thank goodness, we're living a lot longer. >
. >>> but also this half hour, higher taxes on the table as the country edges closer to that fiscal cliff at the end of the year. some republican lawmakers are rethinking their promise not to raise the taxes. >>> and then here's a tax problem worth having, the tax bill on a record $425 million powerball jackpot that's up for grabs wednesday night. people across the country are dreaming. >> and we all know the chances are beyond slim. i think, the money you are putting down is for the fantasy. just that moment, you go, "man if i won this, wouldn't that be great." you're buying that moment of escape. not buying a real shot. >> you're very familiar with fantasizing, right? >> oh, yeah. >> money. winning. >> helps you get through the day. >>> and later they're back. 'tis the season for my favorite family, the griswolds, what got them together for 30 seconds after 23 years. can't believe it's been that long. details on what they're doing coming up in "the skinny." if you do not like national lampoon's "christmas vacation." you have no soul. funniest holiday movie ever. love the griswolds. >> c
, lawmakers working to find common ground on the fiscal cliff before it's too late. plus, holiday shoppers looking for deals, pushing this cyber monday sales through the virtual roof. it's shaping up to be a possible record-breaker. shoppers spending more money today than ever before. a lot of them are not paying sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the brawl at the mall. a jury cleared casey anthony of murdering her little girl. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> shepard: now some potentially explosive evidence about a computer search somebody did on the day little caylee disappeared. and this was no ordinary parade can a gety. >> snn colon and then a number. >> shepard: shredded police documents apparently reigning down on the thanksgiving day crowd. >> i didn't know what to make of all of this information. >> tonight, investigation and police respond. but first from fox this monday night, some republicans are now saying they are willing to break
, you mentioned the fiscal cliff. everybody here, a lot of people who are not here, are worried about what would happen if we went over the fiscal cliff. the combination of higher taxes and spending cuts are estimated to take 4% out of a relatively weak gdp. even if we do not and some deal is struck, the combination of eliminating the payroll tax reduction, which seems to be something the administration supports, that, together with some base broadening, would probably be at least 2% of gdp. if there is going to be a deal, it would involve spending cuts as well. even if we avoid going over the cliff, it looks like there will be substantial fiscal contractionary impact next year. in that environment, what can the fed do to try to offset that to make sure that it does not take us to the edge of ore over the edge of a recession? >> we will see what deal comes out. but you are correct that even if the most extreme scenarios are avoided, some plausible scenarios still involved relatively contractionary fiscal policies over all. i made that point in my remarks when i said that under most pl
fiscal cliff president obama is taking his case to small business owners from across the country, meeting with more than a dozen at the white house, looking to avoid a year-end tax hikes and spending cuts. republican leaders will meet with a bipartisan group of former members of congress as list leaders as well as both sides hold the line on taxes. >> i'm willing to put revenue on the table to pay down debt and create a better economy but my democratic friends have to reform entitlements. what will make us greece is not raising taxes. what will make us greece is not fixing medicare, medicaid and social security. jon: white house press secretary jay carney says president obama will not give on extending current tax rates on wealthy americans. on entitlements carney says the president is open to changes except when it comes to social security. >> the president has long made clear that he is open to discussions about strengthening social security as part of a separate track. jon: so is the u.s. economy heading for a plunge over the fiscal cliff? with us now, associate editor and columnist fo
finished relatively flat yesterday following a new warning from the central bank about the fiscal cliff. speaking to the economic club of new york, fed chair ben bernanke urged lawmakers to reach a deal to avoid the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. he said going over the fiscal cliff would pose a substantial risk to the economy. according to a new study the fiscal cliff could give 90% of americans new tax bills when the bush tax rates and some by president obama would both end. the working poor would be among the hardest hit. a tax policy center analysis showed a married couple making about $30,000 a year would on average go from receiving a $15 tax credit to owing $1400. >> wow. >> yeah. that's probably a reason to try and get something done? >> maybe we will. maybe we will. >> you would think. >> yeah. or maybe we can just talk about 2016. >> we could do that as well. how are you doing, willie? >> i'm doing well. >> good. just two weeks after the longest -- >> thanks for stopping by. >> doing well. >> you know, just two weeks after the longest, most expensive and exhausting
like we're about, we're approaching a fiscal cliff, and this is all going to the happen shortly after or just prior to the inauguration or some time in january. what, what is the, what do you see or what do you predict or what needs to be done to avoid this fiscal cliff? >> okay. happily, i don't have to decide. [laughter] and i don't know. but, i mean, the fiscal cliff is a euphemism. i mean, it's financial. it's the basic financial soundness of the government which connects, believe me, to the value of everything you have, a house, a bank account, an investment and so forth. and it is all in jeopardy. it should be called the financial time bomb. and it's tax increases, it's spending cuts, but it's also what i spent a lot of time in the price of politics writing about where you have to extend the debt ceiling. they, the white house, whoever is there, is going to have to go to the congress and say, gee, you know what? we're borrowing a trillion dollars. i mean, think about, i was trying to figure somebody was asking, well, how much is a trillion dollars? that's about $3,000 for everyo
waiting and watching to see if our officials can keep us from going over the so-called fiscal cliff, more specifically, that's a series of tax increases and spending cuts together set to go into effect on new year's day if they cannot agree on a budget before then. president obama and congressional leaders have been talking and possibly to come this week. it's november 26th. they don't have a lot of time. peter doocy with the news from washington. >> harris, republicans and democrats alike think that closing loopholes to raise revenue is a good idea. republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security a
-called fiscal cliff. president obama expressing optimism they can come up with a deal to prevent automatic spending cuts and expiring tax breaks just into fox, the white house spokesman, jake carney, reports president obama spoke with the house speaker boehner and the senate majority leader harry reid over the weekend. still, concerns of the crisis and the european debt crisis sent stocks down but not precipitously but down. we are seeing signs of progress in washington, dc, with rare bipartisan consensus on raising taxes on the wealthy but they remain at odds over the specifics. in other words, exactly highway do you do it. and mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. the white house is expressing putting pressure on congress. >>reporter: a report on the impact if the bush tax cuts are not extended. the study says the typical middle class family will see taxes go up by $2,200 next year affecting businesses and retailers. the argument is the families will spend less and it will hurt the economy. >> you can see it across housing, and services, and things like paying for cell phone, groceries,
's numbers are up, hopefully that helps moving into the negotiations about the fiscal cliff and all else. essentially the message in washington, we need to see a little bit of progress. >>> former governor jeb bush met yesterday with former staffers near the white house where he reportedly entertained questions about his political future. >> huh. >> according to "the national review," governor bush sat down with a number of veteran florida operatives along with mitt romney's campaign pollster. the article says mr. bush, quote, remained coy about making a run for the white house. instead deflecting the focus toward his efforts on educational reform. >> and the question is -- richard, the drudge report had the headline bush iii. are americans going to -- regardless of how qualified he is. are they going to be turned off by possibly electing a bush when you have history of bush for eight years, clinton for eight years, obama for eight years, another bush when there was actually, you know -- well, wait, bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> that's probably due for another obama. i think bush
going to do a segment on the fiscal cliff but nothing happened today. so i'll show you other attention-starved loans hellbent on doing something really stupid. >> oh! >> oh, my gosh! >> eric: okay. now let's talk about the -- no, it's not, bob. the newest and latest from the obama spy department. zero dark thirty is the new video that documents event around the bin laden kill and it's chock full of controversy. c.i.a. opened the door and file to the movie producers. here is a cliff of "zero dark thirty." >> do you really believe this story? >> usama bin laden. yeah. >> what part convinceed you? >> her confidence. >> if you're right, the whole world is going to want in on this. ♪ ♪ >> eric: we're all watching, we're engaged and we'll all want to see that. but kimberly, should the c.i.a. allow hollywood inside their doors, inside their files? >> kimberly: there isn't up side except people who produce the movie will get paid and investors are lucky enough to get in on it financially will be paid off. people are entertained but to what expense to our national security? this is a movie
the election about the fiscal cliff. what is at stake here for both sides? what happens if they don't get a deal? >> well, look. i think what happens to both sides, it's not even what happens to both sides, what happens to us which is the collective, right? it's what happens to the country which is 4% of gdp disappears overnight. and that's what this is all about. by the way, it's not just about what happens january 1st or 11:59 the day before january 1st. it's already starting to impact the economy. whether it impacts consumers -- and we'll find out today, by the way, in terms of thanksgiving and what's that meant, whether consumers are coming out or not -- but thoorz the bigger issue that manufacturing has already started to slow down. people are starting to worry. it may end up in the economic numbers already, just the fact that we're having this debate. and then come january 1st, do we go over? what does that mean? is it the fiscal cliff? or does it look like the fiscal bungee cord? that's what some people are calling it. we go over for two weeks and then we snap back and get a deal a
jing off the fiscal cliff. let's bring in george stephanopoulos. >> congress has gone home to the districts, any optimism that cooler heads will prevail and we'll see movement toward a deal quickly? >> there are only five weeks left. everything has to happen before december 31st. the president has had his first meetings with the top congressional leaders. there's a fair amount of optimism that something will get done before the end of the year. maybe a down payment on deficit reduction combined with a commitment to hit the big numbers. >> in addition to the fiscal cliff, some big vacancies coming up in the president's cabinet the state department, the treasury, even the cia, the general petraeus scandal, three vacancies now. >> and there's likely to be more shuffling in the president's cabinet. the president has signaled is favorite likely to be u.n. ambassador susan rice for secretary of state, she's faced a lot of opposition in house this week, republicans signed a letter not to appoint susan rice. the president hasn't made a final decision yet. if he went for it, despite
cutting back on business travel before the potential fiscal cliff, usa today says. one company will spend $20 billion less in the next two years if the fiscal cliff happens. >>> the boston herald reports massachusetts highway safety director is resigning. sheila burgess came under fire because her driving record includes seven accidents, four speeding violations and a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. did we mention she's the highway safety director? this week, the governor said it was a screw up his words, to hire burgess for that job. she cites health reasons for her resignation. >>> and the telegraph says the pope says in his new book that christ was born earlier than commonly thought. he says dennis small made that mistake many years ago and nobody caught it. many believe he was born between 17 bc and 200 bc. >>> good morning, and happy thanksgiving! weather outside looking very nice as we expect high pressure to build in overhead. temperatures warming up very nicely toward the afternoon a little chilly early on today. but the latter part of the
he speaks russian. >> steve: and talking about the fiscal cliff. the private talks are accelerating. and the president of the united states called mr. boehner and mr. reid over the weekend. it looks like the president is going to continue the push and meet with the ceo's tomorrow. they upon meet with irskin bowles. he was the co-chair of simpson-bowles commission . mr. bowles had a great plan. he is a democrat, that offered up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's bee
the next few weeks with this looming fiscal cliff. rick: i want to talk to you more about the negotiations over the fiscal cliff in a second, but as far as the consumer confidence part of it goes -- >> yeah. rick: -- where do you think that's coming from? is it just because the election's over in people naturally sort of start or to feel a little more confident no matter who wins? >> yeah, that's exactly right. people kind of happy all the negative advertising, i live in virginia, we were just deluged with negative ads against obama and romney and all the candidates for month after month, and now you're getting a little sense of relief that we're back to normalcy. rick: you know, okay. so the role that consumer confidence can play, because i remember talking to you, gee, must have been like 2009, and the president had just taken office, and the economy was really on a downward slide. >> right. rick: and consumer confidence was low, and a lot of people like you said that that was contributing to the slide, the fact that people had such anxiety about the economy. so conversely, if people are
reflection on us all. now through january 2nd. >>> the impact of the so-called fiscal cliff could hit the country in 41 days if an agreement is not reached. the average american would see the increase of about $2,000. kristen welker is joining me from washington. hello to you, once again. >> reporter: hello. >> let's talk about negotiations and where all this stands. what's the status of things? >> we expect president obama to invite congressional leaders back to the white house in the coming days. you remember he had them here last week. they came out and struck this rare tone of bipartisanship. a lot of peel thought it was a sign of things moving in the right direction, that they could get a deal struck in a timely fashion. since then congressional aides have been trying to put meat on the bones of the deal and we are told republicans' starting offer really is not that different from where they were before the election. they are still basically saying that they want to keep the bush-era tax cuts where they are, which is completely the opposite of democrats want, which is to let the
in washington with plenty to do trying to negotiate a solution to stave off the fiscal cliff. everyone was getting along last friday when all of the leaders met at the white house but now that it's time to deal things are getting a bit tougher. let's bring in david and steve. happy thanksgiving, guys. thanks for getting up early with us. >> good morning. >> first one to you, david, the staffers have told politico that these talks are off to a rough start and issue is, it's the same, the revenue, how to get it. what congressman tom cole said on "jansing and company" yesterday. >> important as to how you get that revenue. i was disappointed to see leader pelosi say it had to be higher rates or nothing. i don't think that's the way you begin a negotiation. >> what about the possibility of keeping the same rates but eliminating deductions for the wealthy in. >> i think that's a good potential suggestion. >> so you hear that, republicans have opened the door to revenue but not by raising taxes. is that going to be enough? might that be the compromised point? >> if you listen to the white ho
with president obama about keeping the country from plunging off the fiscal cliff into economic disaster. >> so let's bring in the host of abc's "this week" george stephanopoulos. good morning, sir. congress has gone home to the districts. is there any optimism that cooler heads will prevail and we'll see movement toward a deal quickly? >> there actually is. there are only five weeks left. everything has to happen before december 31st or everybody's taxes go up, and the spending cuts kick in. but the president has had his first meeting with the top congressional leaders. there's a fair amount of optimism that something will get done before the end of the year. not necessarily the whole big deal but maybe a down payment on deficit reduction combined with a commitment to hit the big numbers before the end of next year. >> in addition to the fiscal cliff, there's some big vak kis coming up in the president's cabinet, as well. we have the state department, we have treasury. those two we expected, even the cia now, the general petraeus scandal, three vacancies. >> three big ones at least and there's
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